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Wed 2005-05-11 10:26
Thoughts on thoughts
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[identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.comWed 2005-05-11 11:04
I have no idea, really. I can work on a list of small brainless things, and I can work on big things, but I do them differently. Working on the GaN project this year, for example, I had lots of small tasks that were more or less boring but still vital, and then I had the one huge hurdle of understanding what was going on. I just sort of put the information in my head and a theory came out. Writing down the theory was back to small brainless tasks again, and since it involved sentences it was terrible but I'd rather that than let the Senior Examiners read my mind!

With regard to your puzzles, I can do the Net games easily, but I find Solo nearly impossible. I can do the 2x2 one moderately well, I've completed the 2x3 one once and not been able to many times. It's the same confusion that I used to feel when I played netball at school - too many things to be looking for at once.

It occurs to me that the GaN project had more things to be looking for, but I could do that. Then, the next step came into my head by itself from the bit of me that was procesing it; with Solo, I wait for it and it doesn't come. Maybe it's to do with the importance of the problem: the secret idea-producing bit of my brain knows that GaN was important but that Solo is just a game and it doesn't matter if I get it wrong or don't finish.
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[personal profile] simontWed 2005-05-11 11:12
Then, the next step came into my head by itself from the bit of me that was processing it; with Solo, I wait for it and it doesn't come.

Hmm, that sounds vaguely familiar. I actually found the same thing when I first started playing Net, and I had a completely different theory about why it was. I wrote a rather long LJ entry on the subject at the time.
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[identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.comWed 2005-05-11 11:42
Oh, I'm glad it's not just me. (There was no reason why it should be!)

Do you ever get, when you change what you're working on or what technique you use, little bits of oddness that feel like a ship creaking when it turns around something? Forgetting something of a kind you normally wouldn't forget, or not being able to do a certain task automatically for a while?
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[personal profile] simontWed 2005-05-11 12:17
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Certainly I find that if I try to do something I used to be able to do automatically but haven't done in a while, it feels unfamiliar until it comes back to me, but I'm not sure I'd describe that as "oddness": it seems obviously natural that things should work that way. I therefore suspect I'm not thinking of the same thing you are.
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[identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.comWed 2005-05-11 13:13
I mean when you learn something completely new. Do it and see if you get weird things happening with the rest of your brain. (If you have time!)
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[personal profile] simontWed 2005-05-11 13:19
Hmm. When I learned to play Solo recently I suddenly found it really odd to look at a (say) seven-digit number which had a repeated digit; I'd got so used to ensuring that never happened that I felt a subtle wrongness if I caught sight of, say, a catalogue number on some packaging. Is that the sort of thing, or are you thinking of glitches that have no obvious relation to the new thing being learned?
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[identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.comWed 2005-05-11 13:58
Things that have no obvious relation to the new thing, sort of.
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