I've not used an ipod, but to echo what the other people said, it seems that most people would be happy to call what it does when you press the apparently-off button "off", and not have thought further. I'm always confused by things that don't expect a need for hard-hard.

I'm also irrisistably reminded of Jurassic Park (I may have made this joke before):

- OK, where's the off switch?
- Right here, next to the computer
- CLICK
- OK, where's the reset switch?
- Um. Under the raptor pen.
- *rolleyes* Crap.

At the point where my iPod controls raptors, I'll demand a proper off switch.

While the "hibernate" mode has a battery life of hundreds of hours, I'm happy with current behaviour.

On the contrary. If my iPod controlled raptors, I'd want a UPS!

An ipod that controlled raptors would be pretty cool :)

I should specify that, contrary to how it sounded, the way most people think is not necessarily inferior to the way I think. By default, I instinctively assume it is, but there's no actual evidence that eletronics that works the way it did 15 years ago is superior to electronics which is reliable and userfriendly, and a reasonable interpretation would be that it isn't :)

(That is, what you said. But it always _happens_ to bug me, for no objective reason except a nagging feeling that it's not really under control and it'll end up biting me in some way later, even if in almost all ways its lots better. However, I suspect Simon will feel the same way.)

Currently my portable music player is some kind of defence against those occasional people who yell offensive things at random women in the street, of whom Sheffield has quite a few. If an ipod controlled raptors sufficiently to make them not eat me or my shopping, I'd so buy it.