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Wed 2006-10-04 10:03
Sometimes Google does not have all the answers

For not very interesting reasons, I just calculated 11 factorial; it came to 39916800. On a random whim, I then typed that number into Google.

The first search result told me confidently that the number I'd entered was 12 factorial. Oops.

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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 09:20
Sometimes Google does not have all the answers
google.com/search?q=11!
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[personal profile] simontWed 2006-10-04 09:27
Re: Sometimes Google does not have all the answers
Yeah, but a calculator can do that. What you need Google for is to go the other way: having been presented with some number such as 73939133, tell me what's interesting about it.
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(Anonymous)Wed 2006-10-04 12:42
Re: Sometimes Google does not have all the answers
True, sorry. I guess I was evaluating not google's utility, but how far to sapience it had gone (it *does* know the answer...)

It's about time they included a reverse lookup, something like your website, but working, or like http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/ -- I'm sure I remember one but can't find it now, do you happen to know of one?
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[identity profile] ewx.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 09:30
Did you fill out their feedback form...?
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[personal profile] simontWed 2006-10-04 09:34
What, and cause the next ten people who follow the above link to post comments here saying "er, no it doesn't"? :-)
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[identity profile] ewx.livejournal.comThu 2006-10-12 14:45
After the first one you could edit the post to say they'd corrected it.
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[identity profile] mooism.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 10:03
Yes. I imagine they’ll have ten bits of feedback about that by now (apart from mine). I wonder which timezone they’re in?
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[identity profile] fivemack.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 09:51
It is an important, and potentially deeply infuriating, stage in any computational number theory problem to type in the answer you've obtained to Google and discover that it was originally obtained by Noam Elkies twenty years earlier.
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[personal profile] simontWed 2006-10-04 09:56
Ah yes. Much like looking up your shiny new algorithm in the index of Knuth.
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[identity profile] ex-robhu.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 23:29
Are there really {m}any new algorithms to be found?
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[personal profile] simontWed 2006-10-04 10:31
Incidentally, your quartic surfaces page seems rather unclearly written in places. It took me a while to twig that the quartic surface equation given in the page title was not in fact a typo but was talking about rational rather than integer solutions. Then you shift from that representation straight to adding a t4 term and talking about integers, and suddenly shift back again in the hyperplanes section.

With a bit of thought it's not impossible to work out what you're talking about, but I think I'd prefer that you only require thought of your readers in the bits that are actually supposed to require thought :-)
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[identity profile] geekette8.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 10:00
Actually, it says it's the factorial of 12!, which I think is a rather larger number again. :-p
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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 10:37
Presumably they mean "...is the factorial of twelve, shock"
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[identity profile] geekette8.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 12:10
I assume they did, but some clarity and care with mathematical symbols would be sensible in the context!
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(Anonymous)Wed 2006-10-04 12:38
Oh, I was joking, I actually thought your were right the first time, that they used factorial twice, not realising it would logically stack.
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[identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 13:26
Maths exam for the 733t-speak generation:

Evaluate 12!!!11one!1!
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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comWed 2006-10-04 13:29
Oodles...?
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