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Tue 2006-06-27 12:14
My Evil Hack of the Week
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[identity profile] j4.livejournal.comTue 2006-06-27 11:29
I feel slightly less guilty about producing borken HTML now I know that it inspired such a l33t hack. 8-)
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[personal profile] simontTue 2006-06-27 11:54
I still think it wasn't technically broken. And as [livejournal.com profile] imc pointed out, even if it were, it wouldn't excuse the HTML cleaner behaving badly, since its entire purpose is to behave well in the face of whatever a user might supply to it including deliberate malice.

But yeah, this was fun :-)
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[identity profile] j4.livejournal.comTue 2006-06-27 11:56
I still maintain that it was morally broken, if not technically broken. (We need web principles as well as web standards!)



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[personal profile] simontTue 2006-06-27 11:59
Unfortunately, many webmasters don't seem too concerned with moral issues; they spend their cash on writing Flash and grabbing your attention. Um.
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[identity profile] j4.livejournal.comTue 2006-06-27 12:01
*falls about giggling*

If that isn't part of a full-on filk, it damn well should be. (If so, bang goes my productivity for the afternoon.)
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[personal profile] simontTue 2006-06-27 12:04
It isn't as far as I know; in keeping with my usual attitude to filk, I came up with the one good line and then stopped on the grounds that the rest would never measure up to it. There's only one filk I ever managed to write more than about two lines of, and even that's stayed 3/4 finished for years.
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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comWed 2006-06-28 10:57
Didn't you do a meme where you combined all those one lines and it was really good?
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[personal profile] simontWed 2006-06-28 11:09
A meme? Moi?

You might be thinking of the time I searched my diary archives for sentences in iambic pentameter and managed to find just enough rhyming ones to turn into a rather disjointed not-quite-sonnet, but that certainly wasn't my collection of filk-seeds.

My filk-seed collection includes, off the top of my head:

In short, in matters vegetable, mineral and animal
He is the very model of a modern David [livejournal.com profile] damerell

I'm the dandy webmaster who you're too scared to mention
I spend my cash on writing Flash and grabbing your attention

Quick reflexes are a must for the habitual player of what is known as (Half-Life)

He works with a mouse, a very big mouse, he's a compsci

For the last of those I have about three quarters of the rest of the song, if I can still remember it, including a triple rhyme that would have made Tom Lehrer blush (maybe). Oh, and there was one where it occurred to me to start off "Eleanor Rigby" with "Eleanor Ripley" and turn it into an Aliens filk, but I never came up with any actual lines for it, although [livejournal.com profile] drswirly provided "Wearing a face that she found in an egg on the floor", and clearly "only way to be sure" should appear in there at some point.

Generally, though, my attitude to filk is that once you've come up with the one outstandingly well crafted line that sparks the whole thing off, coming up with enough filler to pad out the rest of the song is not really motivating and you might just as well leave it at that.

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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comWed 2006-06-28 11:17
A meme? Moi?
ROFL. Sorry. But you knew what I meant, that was what I was thinking of.

Don't worry -- I didn't mean to imply that you'd copied it from anywhere, merely that (a) it was an automated summary of your character in an extremely oblique way and (b) people might like to copy it from you :)
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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comWed 2006-06-28 11:21
once you've one outstandingly line ... coming up with enough filler isn't really motivating
Yeah. Like books where the title is wonderful and says it all, and reading it isn't really gaining anything. Perhaps the correct artform is Filk Line :)

It took me *aaaages* to work out what filk *was*. I had associations because I knew what people described as it, but it didn't seem to make sense. Then I went to wikipedia and discovered my understanding was right :) Their description is beautifully worked out, something like, songs characterised by being about, or by the sort of people who write filk about, scifi/fantasy songs... It really is "know it when you hear it" but wikipedia was good at capturing that essence like a butterfly of etymology[1].

[1] Entomology pun not intended :)
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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comWed 2006-06-28 10:58
Does "Grabbing j4's attention" sound ever so dodgy to everyone else?
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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comWed 2006-06-28 11:03
Do I infer you didn't close some t[x] tags? Why is that morally broken?

* Because closing tags is the one true way? I disagree. I see the good side of all tags being open-content-close, but I can also see good reasons for ones that are open-content-separator-content-separator-content-separator-close.

* Because you shouldn't break LJ? That's not moral, that's dirty pragmatism :)
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