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Tue 2006-03-21 11:15
Thoughts on thoughts (III)
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[identity profile] philipstorry.livejournal.comWed 2006-03-22 21:49
Indeed, I think dreaming is possible.

It all depends on how well you partition the maintenance threads from the other "active consciousness" threads. If they're completely seperate, you'll probably get no dreams. If they have a real knock-on effect on the other threads - memories and experiences appearing or disappearing, combining and seperating - then you could call that dreaming. It's certainly some kind of hallucination, at the very least. :-)

Hallucinating computers. Cool!

I'd like to see the maintenance stuff as a background task that runs whilst the AI is still "up" - in fact, that's one of the differences I envisage between AIs and us. AIs get to almost choose when they dream, and how they want to balance their dream/runtime balance. They can opt for complete temporary shutdown and get it over with, or run it so slowly as a background thread that by the time it's finished, they need to start it again - providing an almost permanent dream state.

Danged AIs. They have all the fun!
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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comWed 2006-03-22 22:40
And you're writing a story suggested by this?
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[identity profile] philipstorry.livejournal.comWed 2006-03-22 23:01
Somewhat suggested by AIs, yes.

I have an entire universe in my mind, in which AIs play a major part. One of the stories set in that universe is about the first ever sentient artificial intelligence. (Created, naturally, by the first ever biological sentient intelligence.) It focuses on how the society that creates it reacts to it, and how it reacts to them.

It's one story of many in that universe. But with the longevity of an AI, the danged things keep cropping up in other stories as supporting characters.

I wouldn't hold your breath to read the story, though. It's been in my mind for years now, and I'm writing down only notes and snippets...
This feels like my magnus opus, and as such I'm determined to write the main story only after I've written surrounding stories which introduce the universe gently - and give me plenty of practice writing, so that I don't foul up the important stories! :-)
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[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.comThu 2006-03-23 13:57
Cool! I like your plan, I've often felt similarly. Though it seems most people end up with their best work being one of the subsiduary ones :) Still, it's a good thing to achieve in life.
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[identity profile] philipstorry.livejournal.comSun 2006-03-26 20:26
It's not a case of wanting these stories to be my absolute best, but wanting to at least do them justice.

As a very unartistic person, there's usually a world of difference between what's in my head, and what I create in the physical world. A good analogy would be like working clay - the first time you do it, you end up with something that looks like a lump of clay hammered into shape by an idiot with no talent.

I want to avoid that by practicing as much as possible before take some clay to these stories, so that they look at least half decent when I write them.

If they do turn out to be my best, then so be it. If I go on to write something better, that's OK too. But the important thing is that I'm happy with the results... That I can look back on it and be satisfied that at least it wasn't a complete shambles. ;-)
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