Ah, but which bridge order? We've already had people quoting it in both directions. (I really should have made a proper LJ poll, but I've never done it before and didn't feel like learning how for such an unimportant thing.)
Do you know if that's *why* or if it's coincidence?
No, no idea. I actually found out when playing Mao (which I learned a couple of years before attempting bridge): as you mention further down your post, bridge order tends to crop up in Mao rules because when a rule needs a suit ordering it's generally convenient to all use the same one. So in one of my first Mao games, someone explained a rule and just said "bridge order", and I said "hang on, what order is that", and they said "alphabetical", and I've never had trouble remembering it since. For that reason I tend to think of bridge order as CDHS rather than SHDC, although I can see that either would make sense depending on context.
I quite like that distinction, actually, just because it's occasionally useful to have a well known 2/2 split of suits that's orthogonal to colour (again, in Mao more often than not :-), and minors/majors is intuitive to any bridge player and also groups together hearts and spades which are similarly shaped.
That hadn't occured to me. I just always thought of them as CDHS, going from first to last and lowest to highest. It didn't occur to me to list the most important first. Now I think I *do* need a poll :)
I quite like that distinction, actually, just because it's occasionally useful to have a well known 2/2 split of suits that's orthogonal to colour
Fair enough. I like some division; at the time I was just annoyed that a heart suit got more points than a diamond, maybe I hadn't got used to the order yet.
So it did! :-)
Big ben: *chimes* Jack: *kisses someone* Jack: Your eyes are so grue! Someone: No they're... Oh yes!
Aha, I've worked out a good retrospective reason why it would have been bad to create a poll for this question. It's because no matter whether I did the poll by radio buttons, tickyboxes or drop-down lists, I would have had to state the suit names somewhere in the poll text, and that could have biased the results because they'd have had to appear in some order. By just asking a bare question without naming the suits at all and encouraging people to reply without reading the rest of the post, I actually did better at avoiding bias :-)
Real life pollers actually have this problem. I can't remember any solution though other than "don't show the takee the poll", "randomise the order" (and increase the size of the sample), or "put the one you want to win first"
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Ah, but which bridge order? We've already had people quoting it in both directions. (I really should have made a proper LJ poll, but I've never done it before and didn't feel like learning how for such an unimportant thing.)
Do you know if that's *why* or if it's coincidence?
No, no idea. I actually found out when playing Mao (which I learned a couple of years before attempting bridge): as you mention further down your post, bridge order tends to crop up in Mao rules because when a rule needs a suit ordering it's generally convenient to all use the same one. So in one of my first Mao games, someone explained a rule and just said "bridge order", and I said "hang on, what order is that", and they said "alphabetical", and I've never had trouble remembering it since. For that reason I tend to think of bridge order as CDHS rather than SHDC, although I can see that either would make sense depending on context.
bridge's (annoyingly arbitrary imho) minor/major distinction
I quite like that distinction, actually, just because it's occasionally useful to have a well known 2/2 split of suits that's orthogonal to colour (again, in Mao more often than not :-), and minors/majors is intuitive to any bridge player and also groups together hearts and spades which are similarly shaped.
Hey, "grue" switched over and I forgot!
So it did! :-)
That hadn't occured to me. I just always thought of them as CDHS, going from first to last and lowest to highest. It didn't occur to me to list the most important first. Now I think I *do* need a poll :)
I quite like that distinction, actually, just because it's occasionally useful to have a well known 2/2 split of suits that's orthogonal to colour
Fair enough. I like some division; at the time I was just annoyed that a heart suit got more points than a diamond, maybe I hadn't got used to the order yet.
So it did! :-)
Big ben: *chimes*
Jack: *kisses someone*
Jack: Your eyes are so grue!
Someone: No they're... Oh yes!
Aha, I've worked out a good retrospective reason why it would have been bad to create a poll for this question. It's because no matter whether I did the poll by radio buttons, tickyboxes or drop-down lists, I would have had to state the suit names somewhere in the poll text, and that could have biased the results because they'd have had to appear in some order. By just asking a bare question without naming the suits at all and encouraging people to reply without reading the rest of the post, I actually did better at avoiding bias :-)