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Sun 2006-03-19 11:01
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[identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.comSun 2006-03-19 11:27
I know of no logical proof of the existance of deities, or other supernatural entities. To paraphrase Julian Baggini:

The cosmological argument (that everything is caused, therefore the Universe needs God as its cause) is logically inconsistent (God then also needs a cause) and does not demonstrate that any particular deity would be the cause of the Universe.

The teleological argument (that the Universe is a mechanism like a watch, so needs a watchmaker) fails because we know that rabbits do not need rabbit makers, but evolved. (Also, we have no experience what the causes of Universes might be.)

The ontological argument conflates concepts with truths about existance.

In other words, such attempts at existence proof at best merely allow space for the possibility that deities exist. Your evangelists cannot convince you.
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[personal profile] simontSun 2006-03-19 11:28
*nods* Yes, I can't imagine that an evangelist could actually come up with an argument which would convince me. What interests me is whether they would be able and/or willing to at least make a credible attempt, and in particular whether they think they have such an argument.
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[identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.comSun 2006-03-19 11:35
I think most would neither make a credible attempt, nor think that they should have to...
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